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Nadec Ascand
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Posted - 2006.03.07 11:09:00 -
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as for the other wcs tread...
did not read the all tread but hope this tread is a joke...
carebears use stabs as they should do atm wcs and scramblers are just are they were 3 years ago and for 3 years nobody whines...
So if u gatecampers cant keep with it well may be just go play another game,
IN EVE THERE IS NO I WIN BUTTON.
evry single module have or should have a counter.
and thats why we got wcs!
and by the way scrambler have no stacking penality why wcs should get so!
If im in a travel ship i know that if i come to 1 guy i have still a chance to flee if im right in a middle of a gank i can still try to flee and die...
wont whine about gankin its part of game.
OMG our war have been hijack -eris
What 0_o LMAO Nadec 4TW - Vanamonde
Here start a new WAR => X - Wrangler
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Nadec Ascand
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Posted - 2006.03.07 11:22:00 -
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*not a carebear*
and whats the pb with wcs in combat. The target choose to fit wcs and loose some tank or dmg to make his fight safer... id rather go for more dmg...
Its all part of fitting.
a raven using 4 wcs would loose 25% dmg output...
OMG our war have been hijack -eris
What 0_o LMAO Nadec 4TW - Vanamonde
Here start a new WAR => X - Wrangler
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Nadec Ascand
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Posted - 2006.03.07 11:30:00 -
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yup and whats if ur raven dude come crossing a scorp with 3 7.5 scrambler a full tank 4 torp 2 nos and bcu...
its all matter of fitting there is no i win button !
evry fitt have his counterpart
OMG our war have been hijack -eris
What 0_o LMAO Nadec 4TW - Vanamonde
Here start a new WAR => X - Wrangler
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Nadec Ascand
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Posted - 2006.03.07 11:37:00 -
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 Originally by: Reite
Edited by: Reite on 07/03/2006 11:34:43
Edited by: Reite on 07/03/2006 11:32:53
Originally by: Nadec Ascand
yup and whats if ur raven dude come crossing a scorp with 3 7.5 scrambler a full tank 4 torp 2 nos and bcu...
its all matter of fitting there is no i win button !
evry fitt have his counterpart
Then he jam the scorpion and either kills it or wap away.. What counter?
Edit: and anyway. How do u suggest that the scorp get within 7.5km range? he certainly will not warp there if the raven is somewhat cautionus.
Edit2: And yea, every setup got its counter, that is somewhat how it should be, but to kill a wcs raven u have to fit SPECIFICLY for that, and useless for almost everything else, while the wcs raven can take on any other ship without refitting.
Qo her eu say the issue is with raven not with WCS here u are...
OMG our war have been hijack -eris
What 0_o LMAO Nadec 4TW - Vanamonde
Here start a new WAR => X - Wrangler
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Nadec Ascand
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Posted - 2006.03.07 13:30:00 -
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Edited by: Nadec Ascand on 07/03/2006 13:31:01
Edited by: Nadec Ascand on 07/03/2006 13:30:45
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Originally by: Grey Area
3. I could say the same about scramblers...I've looked at the stats and I don't see any negatives to any other attribute.
Negatives: Capacitor use, range, aggression timer, combat flag, medium slot. If you can't see these things with your own eyes, then perhaps you should stop typing.
doh u mean when i use my warp scrambler i got a combat flag on me :'( doh so my prey gonna know im going to kill it... doh
and wait... 0_o wcs use low slot arg so they also have problem pls fix it so there are no incovenient at all...and it use pg and cpu dohhhh
" If you can't see these things with your own eyes, then perhaps you should stop typing. "
Come on u already create 5 tread of pure useless whining if there wwas something wrong with wcs and scramblers we allready have whine years ago.
OMG our war have been hijack -eris
What 0_o LMAO Nadec 4TW - Vanamonde
Here start a new WAR => X - Wrangler
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Nadec Ascand
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Posted - 2006.03.07 13:46:00 -
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u think so i gave no argment?
I will resume all my post so.
WCS got there counter from wc scrambler, atm ther eis strengh 2 module in wc scrambler when there is none in wcs.
Putting wcs in low will not gimp setup but u will certainly loose something from dmg to tank or velocity, wich mean that this setup should be really think at to be usefull.
The problem actually is that 1 ppl in 1 ship cant pown evrything coming past his way.
At whats so? Eve is MMORP in MMORP u got MM massive multiplayer, we well know from start that to hunt u need to be more than one.
If u cant stop someone coz of his fitting there is 2 choice coming .
-Change ur setup
-bring a friend or 2
we should not complain about ship being versatil we should complain about us being unable to think about a proper setup to deal with.
There is contraint with using wcs as there is to fit warp core scrambler.
they both use pg and cpu one as active use cap but no so much so it doesnt matter.
Boosting Scrambler strengh will mean certain death to small ship as they have not enough low slot to counter a twice 20km scrambler
Nerfing wcs will mean overpowering wc scrambler.
All the more im against T2 wcs and scrambler due to the fact that T1 will be obsolete and new player => certain death or unable to hunt even in group.
OMG our war have been hijack -eris
What 0_o LMAO Nadec 4TW - Vanamonde
Here start a new WAR => X - Wrangler
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Nadec Ascand
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Posted - 2006.03.07 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Kamikaaazi
Originally by: Pes T'Lance
Edited by: Pes T''Lance on 07/03/2006 13:59:41
Originally by: Kamikaaazi
You finally got my point. No module should have unlimited range. Oh wait, its exactly what wcs has: unlimited range, no penalties what so ever, really easy fitting etc.
Sigh... Personal defences have no range as they modify you, offences have range because they have to reach you. Offences have limited range to prevent them being ovepowered. Pray tell how wcs has unlimited range, infact just give me a range it works in any will do over 0km  . I assume armour reps, shield boosters, ECCM, etc all have unlimited range as well. Oh well, so much for any atempt at serious arguement. I guess some people can't see past the unlimited range that is the end of their nose.
ok, maybe that unlimited range idea was a bad answer. Ill just pull anotherone out of my hat :) WCS uses no cap. All other defencive module use ALOT of cap. (shield boosters, armor reppers). Allso all other defencive modules are pretty hard to fit.
Hows that in balance with wcs?
lol another wrong :p sorry dude ^^
passive shield/armor hardener.
dmg control unit.
OMG our war have been hijack -eris
What 0_o LMAO Nadec 4TW - Vanamonde
Here start a new WAR => X - Wrangler
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Nadec Ascand
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Posted - 2006.03.07 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: melancolie
here i come with a new idea.
If u really think pb is with pvp ship using stab to flee if they gonna fail their engagement ...
Just make wcs and scrambler unable to be on the same ship.
This way evry player non pvp will go as before wcs and all, pvper would need a scrambler if they dont want to see all their prey flee and would not be able to fit WCS.
grr damn alt posting sry
OMG our war have been hijack -eris
What 0_o LMAO Nadec 4TW - Vanamonde
Here start a new WAR => X - Wrangler
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Nadec Ascand
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Posted - 2006.03.09 15:45:00 -
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i guess all turret pvper knnow that if they use tracking enhancer instead of wcs they gonnna do more dmg...(yeah more tracking more wrecking :p )
and yeah tracking enhancer are also non cap use system.
OMG our war have been hijack -eris
What 0_o LMAO Nadec 4TW - Vanamonde
Here start a new WAR => X - Wrangler
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